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Cooking With Bay Leaves: When to Add Them, How Many, and Why They Come Out

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Does that one bay leaf in the pot really do anything? J. Kenji López-Alt calls the flavor very subtle next to most herbs and spices, says bay brings out the meaty flavors of beef and chicken, and admits it’s optional in most dishes, though things are better with it.1 The rules are simple: add it early, give it time, and take it out before you serve. The leaves aren’t poisonous, just sharp enough that surgeons have written them up. For the plant and its chemistry, see the bay leaves profile.

At a glance

QuestionAnswerSource
Fresh or dried?Dried works well; fresh is stronger, so use about halfATK; Milk Street23
Which kind?Turkish bay (bay laurel) is the common kind and ATK’s preference; California bay is strongerATK; López-Alt21
When to addEarly, because the taste builds as it cooks; sources differ on when to take it outPROSEA; Milk Street43
How manyOne or two leaves in most recipes; a single leaf is enough in someATK2
Whole or crushed?Whole is easy to remove; crushed needs a sachet or strainingDaily Meal; Saveur56
Serve it?No. Remove whole leaves before servingPROSEA; case reports478

Which bay leaf

That jar labeled bay leaves usually holds Turkish bay, the leaf of the bay laurel. America’s Test Kitchen calls it the most common kind and its preferred variety. California bay comes from a different tree, an evergreen native to coastal California and Oregon.2 López-Alt says it has a much stronger menthol flavor than the milder, sweeter Turkish leaf. Using California bay in a recipe written for Turkish? Ratio (Attributed): He suggests starting with a quarter to half the amount.1 California bay also contains a compound that can induce headaches.9

Several other leaves sold as “bay” are different plants with different flavors, including the Indian bay leaf. If a South Asian recipe calls for bay leaf, check which one it means. See bay leaves and curry leaves vs. bay leaves.

Fresh or dried

Most herbs lose flavor when dried, but bay holds up. In herbs from hot, dry climates, bay included, the aromatic molecules are less volatile, so the flavor survives drying. America’s Test Kitchen calls properly stored dried bay leaves an excellent choice, and doesn’t recommend swapping a fresh California leaf in for a dried Turkish one.2

Fresh bay laurel is stronger. Milk Street cooked plain rice with fresh bay laurel, dried Turkish bay and dried Indian bay, and the fresh leaf was easily the most prominent, with a striking eucalyptus-like flavor. Ratio (Attributed): When you swap fresh for dried, Milk Street says to use half as much, or smaller leaves, because too much fresh bay can easily overpower a dish.3

You’ll often read that fresh and dried bay leaves usually come from two different trees. ATK’s comparison of dried Turkish with fresh California bay shows the two can differ,2 but Milk Street’s fresh leaf was bay laurel,3 and we couldn’t find a source on which tree supplies most of the fresh bay sold.

When to add, and when to take out

Bay goes in with the liquid, not at the end. PROSEA says to add it early because the taste gradually builds as it cooks.4 Sources disagree on how long to leave it in:

SourceAdvice
PROSEAAdd early; the taste builds through cooking; remove before serving4
Milk StreetIn long-cooking stews and soups, remove the leaves midway through cooking3
Common kitchen adviceTaste as you go and pull the leaves when the bay is strong enough

Milk Street doesn’t say why it pulls them midway. You’ll also hear that bay turns a dish bitter if it cooks too long, but we found no source that tests it. (If a pot already tastes medicinal, see too much bay leaf.) The safe course: add bay early, taste partway through a long cook, and fish the leaves out once the flavor is where you want it.

Bay belongs in dishes with liquid and time: stocks, soups, stews, braises, sauces, beans and rice. The classic French bouquet garni ties a bay leaf with sprigs of parsley and thyme for a soup, stew, sauce or poaching liquid, and comes out before serving. In Indian rice pilafs, whole spices hit the fat first. Erin Alexander’s pilaf on Food52 sautés 2 bay leaves with cardamom, cinnamon and cloves in ghee for 2 to 3 minutes to release their oils before the rice goes in.10 Bay works outside liquid too: Milk Street’s Matt Card uses bay leaves by the handful in roasted vegetables.3

How many

Most recipes call for one or two leaves. ATK found bay most noticeable, and most needed, in recipes with fewer ingredients, where a single leaf can bring out the brightness of tomato and the savory side of chicken broth. In busier dishes, ATK still likes to include it but says skipping a leaf or two won’t make or break them.2 So bay matters most when little else is competing with it. That’s the reverse of the widely repeated idea that it should be paired with assertive spices like cumin.

Ratio (Attributed): The University of Delaware puts bay leaf among the herbs to use with care because their flavors stand out, at roughly 1 teaspoon for six servings.11 That’s a general figure for the whole group, and bay is usually counted in leaves anyway.

Whole, crushed or ground

A whole leaf is the easy one to get back out of the pot. Crushed and ground bay are another story, and sources disagree about whether breaking the leaf matters:

SourcePosition
The Daily Meal (Tom Maxwell)Breaking or grinding the leaf releases a strongly flavored oil that can ruin a dish5
The Spice HouseGround bay can be stirred into sauces, stews and rubs and does not need to be removed12

If you use crushed bay, tie it in cheesecloth or strain the liquid. Saveur’s choucroute garnie, for example, bundles juniper, cloves, garlic and bay leaf in cheesecloth.6

Ratio (Attributed): To convert, NMSU Extension gives 1/4 teaspoon crushed bay for 1 whole leaf,13 and The Spice House gives about 1/8 to 1/4 teaspoon ground.12 See crushed vs. whole bay leaves.

Take them out before serving

Bay leaves aren’t poisonous. Atlas Obscura calls that belief a misconception.9 The reason to take them out is physical. López-Alt says dried leaves are so tough that eating one is like eating a fish bone.1 PROSEA notes their sharp edges can cause internal injuries.4 Doctors have reported bay leaves lodged in the esophagus8 and a 2 cm piece of bay leaf piercing the bowel wall; the surgeons describe the leaves as rigid, with sharp points and margins.7 Those are case reports, so they show the hazard is real but not how often it happens. Count the leaves in and count them out, and if one goes missing, tell the people you’re feeding.

Storage

López-Alt keeps dried bay leaves in the freezer, where he says they last indefinitely.1 The Daily Meal notes that the longer bay leaves sit in storage, the less flavor they add.5 No regulator or standards body we found gives a shelf life for bay leaves kept in a cupboard. Crush one: if it smells faint, it’s faded.

Footnotes

  1. David Leite with J. Kenji López-Alt, “Bay leaves are an optional ingredient”, The Splendid Table, 2014. splendidtable.org · Publication ↩ ↩2 ↩3 ↩4 ↩5

  2. Emily Rahravan, “What Do Bay Leaves Actually Do?”, America’s Test Kitchen, 2023. americastestkitchen.com · Publication ↩ ↩2 ↩3 ↩4 ↩5 ↩6 ↩7

  3. “What’s the Deal with Bay Leaves and Do You Actually Have to Use Them?”, Milk Street, 2020. 177milkstreet.com · Publication ↩ ↩2 ↩3 ↩4 ↩5 ↩6

  4. Laurus nobilis, Plant Resources of South-East Asia (PROSEA). uses.plantnet-project.org · Reference work ↩ ↩2 ↩3 ↩4 ↩5

  5. Tom Maxwell, “Here’s Why Bay Leaves Are Always Cooked Whole”, The Daily Meal, 2023. thedailymeal.com · Publication ↩ ↩2 ↩3

  6. “Sauerkraut With Pork and Sausages (Choucroute Garnie)”, Saveur. saveur.com · Publication ↩ ↩2

  7. Bell and Mustard, “Bay leaf perforation of Meckel’s diverticulum”, Canadian Journal of Surgery, 1997. canjsurg.ca · Peer-reviewed ↩ ↩2

  8. Ahmed and McCormick, “Bay-leaf: an unusual oesophageal foreign body”, Journal of Laryngology & Otology, 1993. cambridge.org · Peer-reviewed ↩ ↩2

  9. Andrew Coletti, “What Is a Bay Leaf, Exactly?”, Atlas Obscura, 2023. atlasobscura.com · Publication ↩ ↩2

  10. Erin Alexander, “Indian Rice Pilaf With Tomato-Onion Raita & Crispy Papad”, Food52. api.food52.com · Publication ↩

  11. “Using Herbs and Spices”, University of Delaware Cooperative Extension, 2025. udel.edu · Reference work ↩

  12. “Bay Leaf Substitute”, The Spice House, 2021. thespicehouse.com · Merchant ↩ ↩2

  13. “In a Pinch Ingredient Substitution” (E-131), New Mexico State University Cooperative Extension. pubs.nmsu.edu · Reference work ↩

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